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Bho Vacuum Purge System?

Discussion in 'Concentrate Tools' started by DabsOnTopDabs, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. DabsOnTopDabs

    DabsOnTopDabs Registered User

    Afterwards successfully blasting my bho into a pyrex i then exercise multiple hot water baths followed past several hours on a hot pad. Through all of this i nevertheless cannot seem to attain a waxy budder that i desire. What i make e'er seems to revert dorsum to a shatter until i add a bit of heat.

    I want to invest in a hand pump - Vacuum Purge organisation and so i can achieve this wax. Somebody told me to use a break bleeder kit (and a mason jar?) to work as a vacuum pump but i even so dont sympathize how that would work equally one. i have seen consummate Vacuum Purge kits with big ol chambers for $150+ but im looking to spend no more than $lxx on a small vacuum purge kite to purge 1g-3g of bho at a time. If somone could tell me where i could buy a skilful vacuum purge or a car i tin can apply as a vacuum purge including every component necessary to excerpt the actress butane out of my bho that'd be awsome.


    -Any advice from experienced medicinal budder/wax makers volition be greatly appreciated. All of this is for medicinal purposes only ofcourse.

    info: A vacuum purge is a machine that i believe lowers pressure causing the bho to inflate with oxygen and strength the trapped butane to escape from the material.

  2. AfganiKush

    AfganiKush Complacent Escapist

    You wont be able to get a vac & sleeping room for 70$. Brake bleeders are not meant to concord the vacuum and i question how authentic the pressure guess is. Stonemason jars tin implode as they arent meant to handle a vacuum either. That being said quite a few people use them, and they are better than simply estrus purging. But just know that they arent every bit functional as a existent vac and chamber.
    And fyi you do not demand a vac to get wax/budder. Wax & budder are just the airated and dehydrated form of shatter/oil. People similar to think they have a Ph.D in bio-chemical science, and volition tell you that wax is a inferior form of shatter/oil and that it contains backlog solvent and moisture creating the mythical 'wax matrix' of cannabinoids and bonded solvent/moisture. Which is definitely imitation.
  3. Allred17

    hey bro r u asking to make budder? most ppl love the shatter await but to make budder or wax equally u wanna call it jus heat it some other 10 twenty degrees due north itl exercise the trick or jus whip it once u take it made into shatter. a proper vac pump u demand is a 2 stage one that can atleast pull 26.99psi where butane evaps. likewise u will demand a vac chamber for a good proper ane they lik 60-100+ on ebay or medical stores.
  4. DabsOnTopDabs

    DabsOnTopDabs Registered User

    Yeah i know whipping information technology when heated does temporarily requite it back it'due south opacity and make it plow a golden color only im wondering about the yellowy-biscuit budder than is always in a chunky gluey pliable course wheras whipping shatter when heated only temporarily makes it budder upward, which if left alone will shatter up and turn back to oil when reheated. Does it budder/wax upward later only letting it sit and dry out or only later the vac purge?
  5. Dysfunctional_Designs

    HIGHTIMES.COM | To Dab Or Not To Dab?

    The Purge

    Afterward the extraction, your concentrate must be purged of whatever solvent remains in it. In an open up system, this can be tricky – and dangerous.

    "I make certain to boom into a pan that's already floating in fairly hot water, where you put your finger in and have to pull it out after a second," says de Sailles. "You'll see the butane bubble away and evaporate, and what'due south left over are big, thick bubbles, which you then have to pop. It'll usually accept about two or three water changes until there's not enough butane left in information technology to practice anything and you can really take it within."

    "How fast you get that butane out of your concentrate matters a lot," he adds. "One of the problems with closed systems is that it takes up to an hour to recover the butane – then that whole time, your excerpt is soaking in solvent. If yous leave extracts soaking too long, information technology tin can crusade the cell membranes to rupture. And then I try to get it out as quick as possible."

    In a closed system, the extractor machine will "vacuum-purge" the solvent from the concentrate. In theory, this method is safer and more reliable, but in reality, that's not always so.

    "A lot of people playing around with vacuum-purging don't know what they're getting into," says Selecta Nikka T. "People are getting vacuums and pumps and chambers that aren't completely sealing, or they're not getting strong enough of a vacuum. I've even seen some material however crackle after simply having water stuck in it from the vacuum sleeping accommodation."

    "If it makes a crackling audio when you rut it, you know for sure it's dirty," de Sailles cautions. "The heat is called-for the solvent, so it makes a sizzling sound like water in a hot skillet. If it'southward sizzling, then there's a problem with the technique of the person who'southward making it. If they couldn't proceed the water out of information technology, I wouldn't trust their extraction skills."

  6. Chief Keefe

    Primary Keefe Registered User

    Using a mason jar as a vacuum bedroom is EXTREMELY Dangerous. No Bueno.

    If you want to do it the right way start reading a lot more than..similar a lot.

    Go a 2 stage hf pump and bleart..but just read human being, yous actually wanna be inhaling butane? Not worth information technology haha..

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  7. DabsOnTopDabs

    DabsOnTopDabs Registered User

    Is the butane that remains in bho later on nigh three days of repeated rut application fifty-fifty worth stressing about? I feel that after bubbles stop forming in information technology in that location is nearly no butane in information technology any. All the same, i do experience that that actual process of blasting the butane is very hazardous but i have a question: Will the use of a thick T-shirt tied around my nose/mouth foreclose whatsoever of the butane gas that i am spraying through my tube or how else tin i avoid inhaling butane since i practice smell and taste heavy butane while spraying?
  8. MrFlk

    volition this pump work for a 3g vaccum chamber?

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    OIL LESS 2 Phase VACUUM PUMP

  9. chadwardlow93

  10. Jimmy Carter

    Jimmy Carter Indica Dominant
    Former School

    Why do you want that anyway? shatter is where its at, clarity homie!

    CFM isnt whats of import with vac pumps. You demand to notice out how many microns information technology tin pull to. you lot desire something in the xv-25 micron range. Theres a lot of learning you accept to exercise human being, you cant exist a primary instantly.

    What kind of desiccator do you accept?

  11. patitou

    tin you help go get a setup for the vacum and somewhere where to read about it... i can do 600 top
  12. extractionexperts.com have kits that work well, if you want a plug and play fix upwards. I bought a bell jar lid for vacuum and a vacuum plate from a scientific supply store.(told them I was making silicone molds for jewelry) Got the two stage pump from a friend. Extractor tube included I am 120 dollars into my setup, and it pulls to -29hg. If you must do a brake bleeder invest in a C-clamp and put that on your line after you lot have achieved the desired vacuum. With extracts dont cutting corners, its non worth it. The old saying goes "Takes money to make money" and "an ounce of prevention is a pound of cure". You lot should exist able to get a tits set for around 600. :bongin:
  13. dishphead

    OP, if you are using butane that you can smell during the extraction, you are using the wrong butane. Butane is a scent free gas if you smell it then you're using butane with a bunch of additives in information technology, one of which is benzene which cannot be purged. Information technology is too carcinogenic, and a poison that attacks the cns. You lot need to research this much more than earlier stepping into the world of solvent-based extraction methods. If you're nonetheless live that is, after smoking non-purged benzene wax.
  14. mik3y

    <sup>I know its not a 2 stage and it doesn't say the cfm,  but it says the horsepower,  like horsepower pumps are usually +7cfm, can someone competent please requite me some info</sup>
  15. mik3y

    as for microns...  its not a 2 phase merely im sure that pump has a shitload of torque,  I bet its pulling over 30 microns...  its a 600$ pump I can buy information technology slightly used for 150
  16. dishphead

    you don't need a 2 stage. a single phase 2hp is plenty.
  17. mmmbongo

    Thank you! Been hunting for the micron rating. Good pumps are rare these ways but I recently saw one pop upwards with a fifteen micron rating,at a reasonable price. It's but 1.v CFM but this is only an consequence if I use a giant vac chamber.

    I'k going to have to make my own vac chamber though. Glass vac desiccators of the right size are also super pricey here.

    Can anyone give me some advice on making a vac sleeping room? I'm trying to find a guide. I've seen a couple of DIY ones fabricated out of modified metal pans but not many details on the actual construction of them. I promise to see an instructable presently...haha.

    I notice it is the opposite! I initially could not become my wax to turn into shatter but realised its because i was beingness far as well gentle with the heat. If yous want wax use minimal heat.
    I prefer shatter, but thats because I accept had waxes with butane dissolved before and been put off. It's a steep learning curve! I would very much love some reassuringly vacuum purged wax but non around here unless I make it myself.

    I finally got agree of a blasting tube before christmas (later on doing far likewise many jar teks) afterwards a long day of running everyone elses stuff I finally went to do mine and the tube cracked and shattered. And then pitiful!

  18. mmmbongo

    It's difficult to get a scaled downwardly 1-3g organization because a very small pump will struggle to get up to the ultimate vacuum you need. Only I do keep telling myself whatsoever vaccing is better than none...

    Mason jars seem unsafe, but there is e'er a gamble information technology will exist ok. I don't want to imagine picking bits of broken glass out of my lovely love though. Yous may become lucky and find a 2d hand setup, seem to be a good number of people upgrading to vacuum ovens so y'all may be able to grab a deal. But 150$-300$ would still be a adequately proficient bargain for the right first setup.

    Brake bleeders suck ass and the gauges aren't reliable. The pumps linked higher up are good only v cfm may be a bit overkill if you lot merely have a small bedchamber.

    Good luck!
    Happy dabbies!

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